Liu Guiming ":

   This is Mr. Zhao Guojun 8 years ago with my old, that I almost forget. Until the king on his blog to post, slowly I would think of that year that month of beautiful memories.

   Although 8 years have passed, but which relates to my lawyer to China understanding, understanding, judgment and emotion, in fact, without any changes. So, I China lawyers understood as old, I China lawyer affection as, I Chinese lawyer concern such as yesterday.

   Thanks to the monarch was to me like "interview, also thanks to the now stick out let me have good memories, thank the attention and focus on the same China lawyer and I.

 

     For Chinese lawyers advocating

       The editor in chief of "China lawyers -- Interview with Liu Guiming" magazine

 

                         Zhao Guojun

In depth interviews:

Interview time: October 28, 2004

Interview place: Beijing youth Mansion Hotel "China lawyer" magazine

 

Liu Guiming, a strong word, No. the Zhou people (pseudonym), male, the Han nationality, born in September 1962, the Jiangxi province Yongxin County, a postgraduate degree.

1985 July,After graduated from the law department, graduated from East China University Of Politics and Law, honor to join the Communist Party of China. During the period of school, worked in grass-roots procuratorate and law firms, in the grass-roots court practice, practice in the public security bureau to society, also had owned newspaper and as president running team. After graduation, worked for the Ministry of justice, law press. Once as a central authority lecturer interactors to education in Henan in a year. Beijing is scheduled to after the "law and life" editorial department. In 1993, was named editor title. In 1994, deputy editor in chief editor. At the end of 1995, was transferred to the all China Lawyers Association Chinese "lawyer" magazine editor in chief, the journal is the first and only issue of law as the core content of the central level. From 1994 to 1997, serving at Peking University School of law, a law graduate students. In 1998, the chief editor (subtropical) qualifications of professional news.

Liu Guiming practitioners in the past 20 years, borrow ink Jieyuan, sowing fire yen, footprints all over the country on both sides of the Changjiang River strokes, Shenzhou each outstanding figures, very fruitful, feeling quite a lot. Although still buried in his work, but there is no regrets. Since joining the National Lawyers Association, and in a different way to for the reform and development of the legal profession, drum and call, are very much concerned. The editor of the "Journal of China lawyer" because of its "by the lawyers love, welcome to" the public publication style and "to the lawyers think, say lawyers said, sharp lawyers are anxious, worry the lawyers worry" professional characteristics by the "National Law Journal Award for good" 2001 (only 6 nationwide). Access to judicial organs "outstanding communist party member" and "advanced worker" title of honor for many times, many times awarded the national legal good news selection report literature and communications award and newspaper award, and won the "honor the national PARKnSHOP legal news worker" title. School of law at the Tsinghua University law China joint master's tutor; Academy of Social Sciences Institute of Postgraduate Tutor part-time professor of law; Central University of Finance and Economics; Hainan University appointed visiting fellow, East China University Of Politics and Law researcher at the center Chinese journal legal news, executive director of the Association; executive director of China Law Press association.

Write more, he is also a keen legal practitioners, launched the "China lawyer", "Chinese lawyers forum", "the law and the rule of tour industry forum" exchange platform; organizing and planning "Chinese lawyer Western Line", "China lawyer image engineering", "why do we do lawyers?" News propaganda; participate in the organization of the "Chinese lawyer 2000 conference", "the first National Lawyers TV debate contest" and other large-scale activities planning work; planning started "China death three people talk about", "judicial constitutional theory and practice", "criminal defense road! Why go narrower more?" Academic activities.

The main works are:

Questioning and record of personal choice works "rule of Law -- at the door to the world" (volume) and "the rule of Law -- legal thinking the world at the door and found" (2) (volume two, a total of 88 words). Has edited or co edited works include: "Chinese criminal defense science" (Associate Editor), the Ministry of justice of Higher Occupation Education Law "legal argumentation theory" (Associate Editor), "the new company law and corporate practices" (Associate Editor), "the poetic couplet pen copybook" (ed.), "back in twenty-first Century (Series)" (ed.), "crime in documentary" (ed.), "eloquent Charm -- China lawyer handling record" (ed.), "from two yuan lawsuit start" (ed.), "century cases" (ed.), "visits the lawyer" (ed.), "Chinese lawyers involved in memoir" (Planning)

 

 

Is not easy to interview Liu Guiming editor in chief, he was too busy. Beijing is his home, but all over the country are active in his shadow. The familiar people call him "A Gui", A Gui is a warm, passionate, full of feelings of lawyers. As the "lawyer" magazine editor in chief China, after he took office will change the running purpose, the publication of accurate positioning in the law service, outstanding performance, has won acclaim. Publications, conferences, forums, competitions, all related to the lawyer, he always active organizers and enthusiastic participants. He masterminded the "Chinese lawyers forum" has been held four times, fruitful, has more and more influence. October 23rd to 25, chief editor Liu Guiming just participated in the fourth Chinese lawyers forum held in Hefei, our conversation naturally started from here.

 

Working for the national lawyers!

 

Zhao Guojun.You have just attended the fourth session of China lawyers forum back, as everyone knows, this forum is sponsored by your masterminded and, please tell us about it, OK?

Liu Guiming.In 1999 September, America "Fortune Global Forum" for the first time in Shanghai, has received great response and success, also brought me some enlightenment: reconstruction has been 20 years of Chinese lawyers can learn from "Fortune Global Forum", hold a large forum, to strengthen between lawyers and law firms the mutual communication, communication, learning, improve and develop? At that time, several lawyers very much in support of my idea, and eager to planning, carefully prepared plan, in 2001, we got the idea to the Ministry of justice and the National Lawyers Association's support, in December the same year, the first Chinese lawyers Forum opened in Kunming.

Zhao Guojun.The forum is positioning how? A few forum have what different?

Liu Guiming.We want to build it into a lawyer communication and communication platform. Now give me its location is, to make the forum a "four place": an outstanding talents in place, a leading thought the collision of place, an advanced experience exchange places, a legal culture exhibition place. Four local shows also is four big characteristics: ideas, debates, exchange of experience, cultural display. The journal founded in addition to such a forum, and also my own position, I work for the lawyer! They are my boss, how to serve them, play their role, to expand their influence is what I should do and try to do, because I'm their drums and call! The forum is to give all levels of lawyers to provide such a platform, in which they interact with each other, mutual excitation, and gain.

Every year, the forum will be some change from form to content. Each has a theme, it is I to plan. The first session of the Kunming Forum on the theme: "the lawyer industry management and development" under the background of WTO, the lawyer for 200 people; the second is held in Shanghai, the theme of "professional orientation and professional brand", there are more than 300 people present at the meeting; third in Guangzhou, the topic of discussion is the "law and development" our specification, represent reached 1000 people, this year there is a change, is the National Lawyers Association Professional Committee will be held simultaneously with the Forum; this is the fourth, in Hefei, theme is: "the industry construction and development", there are nearly 700 delegates. This forum has also changes, is the first Chinese young lawyers forum will be held, this is the breakthrough and the extension of the previous forum mode. The forum is to communicate the lawyer industry, but more than that, at the same time, pay much attention to frontier thought absorption outside the industry with different sounds. Forum improves lawyer expressive force, strengthen the occupation identity between lawyers, the concept and idea of interlinked collision. Can say, form more and more alive, more and more new subject, has an increasing effect!

Theme design actually forum is the main line of the occasion, start-up we lawyers development clear a path, saying simply is the "four modernizations" road, lawyer development to achieve standardization, scale, specialization and branding. The past few years has been the "four modernizations" along the road to the design theme, and to improve the communication way between lawyers. You see, the first year of the theme is joined WTO background how branding problem, second years is about the specialization, the third is more about standardization, this year's theme is about the scale of the problem.

Zhao Guojun.What are the contents of the forum? The first China young lawyers forum is how to return a responsibility?

Liu Guiming.This forum, both topics or proposition is to lawyers think: if we need to scale, whether to have the scale and the scale of the problem and how to realize the scale of potential obstacles, path, and so on, covers a wide range of. Mainly includes: the scale is a recent task or long term goals? The scale is there the commission? The joint and combined Is it right? Scale the inevitable road? The scale Is it right? Professional division of functions as the premise? These motions are very good, stimulate the mood, causing more thinking, there are many high perspicacity.

Have introduced China young lawyers forum, because there are some young lawyer proposed opinions to us, said Chinese lawyers forum is a "rich club", is to achieve success and win recognition law stage, the young lawyer no chance. So, we decided to young lawyers to build such a platform, began the development of attention on the problem of young lawyers. We believe that: today we build a platform for young lawyers, the future young lawyers will for us to put up a piece of the sky.

Zhao Guojun.The four session of the forum, you can rack one's brains, be conscientious and do one's best, finally has a good situation today a thriving, you busy is off, the lawyer can't forget you.

Liu Guiming.From the personal desires and feelings of speaking, I am willing to make contribution for lawyers' rights, development! This is not, after all, a person's strength is limited, but whatever the future holds, what the result is, I would more lawyers, have been doing it! In fact, lawyers are also welcome, encouraged me to do so, they gave me a great compliment and praise, whenever this time, I feel again painstakingly again tired is also worthy of, no regrets! No, no, but the mind to give me something that is priceless, despite the difficulties and hardships, but I feel happiness, always enjoy it!

On the forum, I really be filled with a thousand regrets. Think of so many years of groundless talk, finally achieved such results, the heart do not feel proud and proud? I have quoted Toffler said in an article: as all the forerunner in general, our mission is to create the future. When we retire love when, when we're frail looking back at the past, when we long lie sick looking out the window at a leaf, we will feel no regrets, because we jointly established "Chinese lawyers forum"!

Zhao Guojun.The forum has a lot of administrative officials, who spoke at the meeting, to give a lot of support, we are happy at the same time, there is also a worry, officials there will not affect the purity of lawyers forum? I mean: lawyers forum do so prosperous, there is momentum, sound power independently, show, can do more pure, a good start to the lawyer profession autonomy?

Liu Guiming.My idea is not to do more pure, but to do more open! Delegates of the composition to more open, composed of experts to more open, the topic of discussion to a more open. Because the wisdom collision requires an open mind and attitude, and the collision and communication should not be limited to the lawyer, lawyer and other industries, law and other disciplines are needed to communicate well. In fact, we have noticed this problem. For example, foreign, Hong Kong and Macao lawyer should also join in, you see, the foreign law firm has 100 representative offices in China, they can also send representatives to participate in the. There have been represented in this area, but only pay attention to the representative on the surface, not make them become an independent part of delegates, lack of depth. So, we are not only from a regional representative and openness of the future, at the same time from the occupation categories have representative. I think, can please some accountants, tax accountants, auditors to attend? Are there the notary industry, appraisers consider? Interbank exchange is the fundamental industry, communication is improving, the collision. Officials question you said, some of the lawyers also pay attention to the opening ceremony, said: Why are they, not we Lawyers Association of people? But in the present case, still have the necessary administrative participation, through our team, theme, content and a series of demonstrations of them will have the inspiration and influence. Officials, not afraid. But also for the development of our lawyers. So, I thought, officials should not only, but also to the higher level. The National People's Congress, the Chinese people's Political Consultative Conference next year to please the person to say, this is very advantageous to expand the social influence of our. Officials, judges and prosecutors must also, however, they are now just as a guest at the opening ceremony speech, the future Is it right? Can also become a part of the forum? Worth exploring, such exchanges will be more in-depth and lawyer some.

Zhao Guojun.It is meaningful to do so. Lawyers, judges, prosecutors, there has been a need for such a mechanism or a platform to communicate, through the three limit, strengthen the contact with each other, in order to form a common psychological and common environment requires legal occupation community.

Liu Guiming.Three we are ready for a lawyer, judge, prosecutor, next year's talk. This year China young lawyers forum had a three people talk about the form of communication, a representative of the humanities, a representative of economy, a representative of the law, the topic of discussion is very deep, meaningful. The forum is in the open lawn, sunny, open environment, is the very embodiment of the open forum, the effect is very good. Our lawyers and judges, prosecutors do not need such an open platform?

Zhao Guojun.In addition to the "China lawyers forum", you have planned and organized the "law and the rule of tour forum", a great response, known as the lawyers of the "same song", this forum and lawyers forum is, what is the purpose?

Liu Guiming.The lawyer himself is Chinese lawyers forum of the protagonist, lawyers in speaking, listening, in theory. "The law and the rule of law is the tour forum" experts say, the hearing, the experts all over the country to carry out the tours for lawyers. The 9 report up to now has been to Guangzhou, Kunming, Chongqing, Foshan, Changsha, Fuzhou, Xiamen, Tianjin, Taiyuan, lawyer, widely welcomed, the effect is very good! Tour the pulpit was founded, aiming to make Chinese lawyers appear "a legal experts and lawyers communication and exchange platform, a shining light of thought and expression of studying heart stage, a reflection and understanding of legal theory and judicial practice of the frontier dynamic front, a high overall quality and perfect lawyer lawyer training platform", this forum can be said to be work in legal experts, in the interests of local lawyer. Our "Chinese lawyer" magazine also won a good reputation play bridge and tie and window function.

 

Zhao Guojun.The magazine as a bridge, development forum, the forum, the magazine, the two support each other, sang, achieves the benign interaction. After all, or to create a blue sky China lawyer angle. When it comes to your main position -- "Chinese lawyer" magazine, can be good to talk about. You write "words from" become fashionable for a time, the publication of rich content, wide field of vision, and high academic level, do very well. How do you take this magazine?

Liu Guiming.That was in 1995, I made the deputy editor of the "law and life", also did well. I had to Chinese "lawyer" magazine, is not the only candidate. But in order to challenge myself, decided to try to rush. When the candidate, the association leadership asked me a question: if you do the editor, you should do this publication? I to answer conceived ideas, they decided I can come to work immediately.

Zhao Guojun.What is your answer?

Liu Guiming.I said a magazine should be clear first of all is to run to see who, this call: the audience positioning. In my eyes, "Chinese lawyer" is for four kinds of people: those who no doubt is a lawyer, is a want to be a lawyer, third people are the scholars and experts of lawyer system, fourth class is for those who want to hire a lawyer, the lawyer who seek. Whatever the topic planning, program design, layout, expansion should be considered from the four aspects. They very much agree with my idea, think this idea is very good, so, out of heavy resistance, to transfer me.

Zhao Guojun.I heard that you were not successful, is?

Liu Guiming.Is the original unit that I do not want to go, do not put, the magazine's side took quite ADO, I risked losing their jobs to work by the end of 1995, although talk good, but the formal transfer over is the 96 year in August, nearly a year of time in no suspension single bit in the state. But I have no choice, if determined to make a career, it must be the magazine well, must be very hard, must bear more pressure than others. I am the person, not smart, how to do? Only hard work, diligence, in addition, perhaps out of rural areas, there was a swallow humiliation and bear a heavy load of enthusiasm, can eat bitter, not what.

Zhao Guojun.As can be seen from your office publications, the heart of the lawyer, services for all spiritual stand vividly revealed on the paper. A few years later took over the magazine, you have to do the work to achieve the original idea?

Liu Guiming: it can be said, from 1995 to 1996, I arrived in that period is not very stable, the magazine is still in the exploratory stage, but there have been changes in the. 1997 first phase began to enlarge print, big 16 edition, topic and style have changed a great deal, published many excellent articles, and the effect is very good, now to find the 1997 publication can be difficult, has been lost, one also can not find, even I also find themselves in 1997 bound volume. Correcting this year is the biggest change. In 1998, 2000 and 1999 increased slowly, a new look, more stable mentality, in 2001, 2002 is shaping, 2003, 2004 is how to expand and development issues, generally speaking, the magazine is continuous development, continue to harvest and constantly enterprising in the past few years. In 2000 we also established the "China lawyer", open the website, increase communication and expand the channels of influence. With the 2001 "China lawyers forum", the 2002 "law and the rule of law, this tour forum", a magazine as the main position, including online, forum, media three party platform formed by all forms of lawyers, display style, reflect the lawyer, lawyer drum and call, as lawyers, we purpose, my dream will be realized.

Zhao Guojun.You are really a super worker! In the words of Peking University professor he's scope of work, you develop more and more wide. What can be used for the law favorable, all trying to do. I particularly like your guideline: "want to the lawyers think, say lawyers said, anxious anxious, worry about lawyers lawyers worry", reflects your lawyer to lawyer services for the purpose of the heart. Remember what you have in the magazine for many lawyers fate cries out, and help them out of trouble. What has this aspect prominent examples?

Liu Guiming.A lot of, is the earliest Hunan lawyer Peng Jie was accused of secretly escaped case, I mainly a continuation of the previous magazine colleagues efforts to help you, Peng Jie unprovoked was closed for 259 days, in 1996 July, freed Peng Jie to the magazine to you, we have done many follow-up reports, attention he was released from prison after the situation, now that he has died. There is also a lawyer, Henan lawyer Feng Zhide wanted by the local department of political science and law in the process of handling a case, we do in-depth interview and to "escape the lawyer when to set foot on the road home?" The title of the report. The coating lawyers Sichuan to corruption charges, are brought to our attention, we will be fully reported to reveal the truth. There are many of these cases, we think about their fate is to pay attention to the construction of rule of law in China, is to focus on our own.

In 1999, I look to the west, organized the "Western lawyers Chinese" activities. Therefore, I specially arranged two young reporters in the western hinterland, starting from Shanxi via Inner Mongolia, Datong, Ningxia, Shaanxi, Gansu Road, the field to understand the western lawyer living conditions, reflecting the plight of their practice, their work and their wish and hope. In 2000, I sent a reporter to interview in Tibet, Qinghai, in 2001 to send reporters to Sichuan, Chongqing, Guizhou, Xinjiang and Yunnan to interview, although not exclusive, but we also had meetings and activities on there, so, almost the entire western lawyer's cases are the solution to the. Such interviews were welcomed, we a reporter to a county, Guoluo Prefecture of Qinghai, the county people say: there have been 20 years have not seen Beijing reporter, a local committee secretary personally accompany us reporters to eat. So the occlusion situation makes us think there's lawyer practicing in what kind of environment and condition. Can say, our interview is close to the bottom of the China lawyer. Our "Red Star over China" published lots of works, there are many excellent articles, it is important that we do the comprehensive reflection of Western law. Therefore, the central put forward the western development strategy in 2000, and "Western lawyers China line" in 1999 has already begun. Therefore, we make fun of to say: we went to the central front.

The lawyer concern is not only a regional case,, and universal phenomenon: for example, we planned a "China lawyer image project", is concerned about the image of lawyers; "organized criminal defense Road ah, why go narrower more?" , "judicial reform and judicial impartiality" and so on academic research activities, is concerned with our legal problem.

Zhao Guojun.It is really an admirable, your organization, planning, participation in such activities, the passion and strength you, or the Academy of Social Sciences, Mr. Zhang Zhiming said that you always keep in a state of passion, really not easy. My question is: what is the passion?

Liu Guiming.Can say, never an occupation that I so desire, not from an industry makes me so excited, never a group let me so concerned! In Chinese lawyers happy work, the lawyers gave me constantly spurting passion, continuous combustion spark, keeps jumping wisdom. I love, hard and diligently, work hard, hard work, because of fear of a trust to the lawyers, but cannot return the lawyers to pay. The so-called "silent spring as a bitter, often with fear of negative". To say what is the passion? From the majority of lawyers! They gave me power and inexhaustible inexhaustible expectation, so I try to keep up, dare not neglect.

 

A heart of lawyer's publications, a lawyer who, whether it is written, or interview, planning, organizing activities, is always closely related to and China lawyer career, always want to become integrated with and Chinese lawyers, their situation Liu Guiming editor will not be unfamiliar, we should pay attention to is the various problems of legal occupation community in the face of.

 

What is the law?

 

 

Zhao Guojun.Finished the work you do, we're going to talk about the legal problems, you must have something to say. As everyone knows, to compare our lawyer neither with the countries of Anglo American law system and continental law countries generally, lawyers, judges, prosecutors and judicial three pillar has the very big disparity, even lawyers facing two restrictions and pressure, working environment is very difficult, you can said lawyers social functions can be fully play, depending on the judicial authority whether their power effectively self constraint, how to understand this sentence?

Liu Guiming.The so-called legal occupation community involves a system design, system design should have all kinds of support and restriction. But our country characteristic, ideology plays a decisive role, the executive power is also very strong, on the understanding of natural law should have a process. The lawyer is linked with democracy, freedom, rights, lawyers and public power is a kind of relative rights of resistance, the need to balance the forces. The prosecutor is the voice of the accused, justice, justice is justice, in addition, unlike the procuratorial organ sound should also appear, I call it the pursuit of the voice of justice, or a voice out of the problem how to do? Only one sound is not normal. Just as our government to make decisions, there must be a set of emergency plan, the law is, when I catch you, catch the wrong, how to do? There should also be remedial measures. The exercise of any power would have a loophole, similarly, procedures and rules are always flawed, it needs some people to fill gaps and lack of investigation, this is the role of lawyers. So, some people say that the lawyer is in trouble. Tell from some kind of meaning is right, is a lawyer little trouble constantly, to avoid bigger trouble, the lawyer is such a rational opposition. Recognizing this, we should actively play the social function of law. The judicial organs and the lawyer his responsibility, especially the examination authority can not be crossed, the power of their own to be effectively constrained, the lawyer's right to a lawyer. Objectively speaking, the existence of such a situation, there is limited knowledge, we traversed the distance is very short, restore the lawyer system until now only a short span of 25 years, the experience of a person, is not it? 25 years is only a youth, efforts and exploration Chinese lawyer Lu take generations. With the rapid development of the national's momentum, I think the lawyer industry developed very well, encounter some problems is normal.

Zhao Guojun.Cautious optimism, because the law is rational occupation, established to treat the rule of law environment we should be rational, objective look at is the. The relationship between lawyers and judges is a major event in the legal profession, most people think that the lawyer bribery, the judge for taking bribes, the relationship between lawyers and judges in a very embarrassing position, the judges and lawyers social credibility has been a severe challenge. The Supreme People's court and the judicial department recently jointly issued a document request, strictly regulate the relationship between the two, in order to safeguard judicial justice. Both sides blamed each other, each word, as a result of years of wandering around in between the two "veteran", you must have a very good idea?

Liu Guiming.The relationship between lawyers and judges are not normal. One is too good, one is too bad. But recently some regulations or documents that have been introduced, trying to give between judges and lawyers for a "isolation belt". I think that is a stopgap measure, did not catch the fundamental. Lawyers and judges are always related to. Lawyers and judges if it doesn't matter is not normal in the country under the rule of law, and the prosecutor is the same, the lack of a party are not in this triangle structure. If the result is a product, lawyers, judges, prosecutors are product assembly line workers, three how can it doesn't matter? Artificially among them draw a "high-voltage wire," "the wall", not too realistic.

He said the bribes problem, in the case of speaking, the source is often in the lawyers, from the nature and overall, absolute in the source! Why will the judge to do so? We have a relationship with the national judges position, in such a slow environment, judge revered status is not formed, the administrative management is still Chinese characteristics. You can not move to 50000, 500000 not tempted, 5000000? Who can withstand? One for my own life to worry about, worry about their own future judge can not be tempted? Hard. Lawyer? Where a lawyer does not want pure practice? What lawyers hope we won't have to please who eat, do not have to judge, even if it is a deliberate smile, only hope that within the scope of the law to do everything that should be done, to make evidence, spell the fact, good ah! In addition to human society environment, the quality of judges, professional level is uneven, the case is difficult to expected results, so, whether or not to grasp, to pre emptive, bribe the judge, there is no better than a bit, jittery, and so on, more and more bad environment.

Zhao Guojun.Qian Weiqing lawyers had done analysis, a subtle he said: the dual attributes of both law and judge "Officialdom" or "political man", is based on the officialdom, exercise the state jurisdiction. While lawyers as the legal person and the "market" or "businessmen" characteristics, the slave is the market, is the legal status of the agent or defender private rights in legal matters. Power is the essence of evil, unchecked power to "Rent-seeking", private rights to seek maximum benefits also hopes to pay a small amount of "rent" to achieve fair or unfair right purchasing power, but ultimately play a decisive role or the judge's authority -- we must keep highly alert to power! So, you see, the judge and the lawyers are "friends", or "relatives"?

Liu Guiming.I often say, lawyers and judges are not relatives, nor friends, they should be the same as the legal person "capitalists"! They are related, and, this relationship is to gauge can be made, no contradiction.

Zhao Guojun.The lawyer and prosecutor? Our lawyers lack of equal communication conditions and the judges, prosecutors, and in the extremely vulnerable position. Most of the time, the procuratorial organs will "become shame" the defense lawyers arrested, criminal situation is very serious, your report and the forum of this kind of case, in your opinion, lawyers and prosecutors should be what kind of relationship? How to improve the current competitive situation?

Liu Guiming.Lawyers and prosecutors should be a is not a general sense of opponents, their relationship should be more intimate. I agree to a point of view: the government lawyers into the public prosecutor, on behalf of the accused, from this perspective, they are not "own", but rather a peer, is the. Are lawyers, division of labor is different. Is it right? Closer? Lawyers and prosecutors, is no longer the emotional confrontation, but a rational confrontation. There won't be like now, after the court the lawyer picked up. But in view of the current system, between lawyers and prosecutors also exist many difficult to overcome the contradictions, only gradually improve. Lawyers and prosecutors have strength is not uniform, there is a big gap in status, education quality and so on, imbalance is both difficult to restore the essence, function, various "strange situation" is inevitable.

Zhao Guojun.What impressed me most is your famous lawyer America known as "the best defense" Dershowitz access, in such a short period of time to seize the main issues, quite level and skill. Dershowitz is wonderful, his agent who didn't want to take no one dare to take his case, focusing on the government to America "confrontational", to "keep in attack" strategy, pay attention to handling skills, emphasizes to win, because his ideal is: not a title than the defense lawyer is more honorable, so, he asked to understand law "with sincere and honest spirit of students, not to" cheat ", hypocritical not met in real life". Compared China lawyer, you think that the gap in where?

Liu Guiming.Dershowitz should represent the future direction of development of law, is the extreme of Anglo American law system, is also the ideal Chinese lawyer. We want to reach as pure realm also need to walk a long way. The country's idea to change, we have made great progress, in the past about dictatorship, now the ruling, ruling ability and speak, quantized into five aspects, it is a progress of great. With this change, understanding of lawyers will gradually increase, also can make the lawyer to return to practice free legal environment, after ten years I want to have a look, will have a greater change, lawyer's development will be better!

 

Zhao Guojun.I hope that one day soon, but had to return to the reality. Now, the lawyer is in fact a general service industry groups, "service" and even commercial law occupies the main body, compared with the target of western countries and a lawyer's duty, our "Statecraft" has not played out, the lawyers' political status is very low, do you think the lawyers involved in politics what are the advantages? How to participate in social public affairs?

Liu Guiming.On the position of lawyers must talk about its positioning, positioning for lawyers is not a small change, but no a positioning is comprehensive, from the previous "national legal workers" to "social legal workers", "intermediary legal service personnel", all the emphasis on services of lawyers, not to participate in the national management and participation in public affairs level. Should be in three aspects: political role for the positioning, market positioning and positioning of social role. I said, our lawyers don't expect to be Japanese style "in Cao", did not dare to dream of becoming the Anglo American countries as "free occupation", we just hope to find "the maintenance of basic human rights, realizing the goal of social justice". In fact, the lawyer to participate in politics is an advantage. In the market society, he can be the economic life of the lubricant, is a bridge, can regulate the operation of the economy. When providing a lot of legal services to the public, the lawyer brought many rules in the legal knowledge of its own to the society, and put forward opinions on the timeliness of the applicable law, also can timely feedback and summary of the development of constructive, the stability of the society. The lawyer pluralistic thinking, involving all aspects, open field of vision, the contact surface is broad, not their own interests, not only practical, compassionate, and summarize the sublimation, refined management experience, neutral, plead for the people. To be an effective force in the political structure. In legislation, the role of lawyers is very obvious, he will think of many hypotheses and may, will the benefits achieved with compromise, to achieve harmony and balance, to achieve scientific and democratic legislation.

Zhao Guojun.Said the words so many lawyers, to talk about the bad lawyer, lawyer and many unsatisfactory place, I think: as the lawyer drum and call, not only young its advantages, also referring to the deficiencies, the so-called: love, responsibility cutting. In the process you for so many years and lawyers, will this deep feeling, in your opinion: who is the ugly lawyer?

Liu Guiming.Yeah, working environment is to say, you should also put out. I believe that the current, lawyers have four problems need to be overcome. A parochial prejudice is quite deep, is not unity, against each other, with light. It is very easy to damage the overall image, the overall level of influence. The two is the contempt of management. Mainly is the self-discipline management of internal management and the individual lawyers law firms do not good, some lawyers know only royalty, penny, the lack of long-term planning and overall planning. Three is not a good learning, learning atmosphere is not dense, keen on vulgar relations, also refused to take a little time to read, write, this is very bad. Mr. Zhang Sizhi had a deep concern, and we should arrange for lawyers to carry out "reading" activities, I think this is a very good suggestion. The fourth problem is too strong utilitarian, utilitarian is normal, but is too utilitarian is not good. Now, some lawyers do no good, do a lawyer, for instant success, forget honour at the prospect of profits, not good, the lack of occupation morals, his path blocked, which greatly damaged the reputation of lawyers. Jiang Ping teacher told the lawyer's quality and temperament, I think plus two: the quality and the nature. The lawyer is the essence of life, quality is excellent, such as lawyer Zhang Sizhi advocated "real lawyer and excellent lawyers", a dignified and imposing man, be the same outside and inside of a person, in accordance with the said interview Dershowitz time, "not really the most personality, nature is not the best defense".

Zhao Guojun.Jurists, lawyers, prosecutors, judges is essentially a belief system of the community, despite the contradictions between them, the rule of law is the pursuit of the common, you and your editor of the journal, the forum has been held for the construction of a harmonious community efforts, you think lawyers in construction of such a legal occupation in the community should play what role?

Liu Guiming.Construction of such a community needs the objective environment continue to improve, their ideas need to be changed, the subjective, the lawyer should strengthen their own quality and image, cultivate their sense of mission and sense of justice, establish a struggle for rights belief. The lawyer cannot leave will only use the mouth rip off a bad impression, not honest, disorganized, without their own good image, how to win the respect of others? Blacksmith also oneself hard, lawyers and judges, prosecutors are still many in fact not equal, but each group to restore itself, strengthen its own construction, will be the same, to form a common scientific spirit, ethics, professional quality and knowledge accomplishment, achieve mutual respect occupation.

 

The China lawyer industry, Liu Guiming is a witness, witness, is also the reflection of. He is a special legal person, is a bridge between the connected lawyers, judges, prosecutors, he and his group is willing to do this bridge, "bring happiness for others is not more happy?" He asked me. This has been another picture of the people, has been making do for others who, who was watching him? Behind the clamor, he China lawyer Is it right? Anything to say?

 

 

Happiness is a bridge

 

Zhao Guojun.You never hide, also do not cover up their provincial, your words are full of passion and affectionate, both traveled around the country, and presided over the pen g, gave me the impression that you always have a kind of hard, firm and indomitable spirit, and always stand on the side of vulnerable groups, in addition, against superstition, pseudoscience, quackery carry forward the spirit of rule of law, also see your pragmatic commendable character, these Is it right? Related to your experience?

Liu Guiming.Originally grown in the country, do not love it? I have no what special talent, can go to today, thanks to the help and love you, that makes me have the opportunity for the lawyer, thank others also only know to help others is the highest happiness, can do things for others is not good? I like to make a bridge, bring convenience to many people, they have more value. Bring happiness for others is not more happy? The so-called hard, to bring happiness to others will feel hard, he is happy! Not some poor only money? Find yourself with nothing to do, very empty. The last time Sima Nan and I went to a small speech, I say: what is happiness, happiness is the continuous pursuit, continue to share, continue to pay, it will be happy, forever in happiness.

I am a boy from the countryside, capable of doing something for others happy. In fact, in the service of others at the same time will slowly improve yourself. Improve your idea, level, culture and knowledge, there is pressure on the power.

Zhao Guojun.Service Is it right? Your life line?

Liu Guiming.I think it may be so, in the university I is the class clerk, specifically for students to send and receive e-mail, letter home lover, advertising, is through my hand distributed to every one, at that time, I will for their happiness, their sorrow and sadness inside, a great happiness. After graduation, I decided to choose to Henan to lend a hand, want to take the knowledge for the poor people, because the knowledge can change the destiny, and finally to the lawyer magazine, and do some contribution for lawyers fate, I always experience the happiness in such efforts and pursuit, always willing to do such a bridge, because, on for me, happiness is a bridge, even you and me, with thousands on thousands of people who love life.

Zhao Guojun.What is your greatest wealth?

Liu Guiming.My biggest rich is to bring happiness to others

 

This was for the happiness of others and who try to get everyone's favorite, also obtained the leadership award, the Justice Department leadership said: "Liu Guiming is irreplaceable". We are happy for him at the same time also worry: no alternative is important, but also the necessary. Necessary to non - this is not, but is also fixed at this point? The temperament and talent Liu Guiming, passion and ability, can to a greater development platform. Because, many years of efforts, as China lawyer service ideas and action has been done, we want him to become a hero from supporting role, stepped forward to, do more, more.

I admire Mr. Cai Yuanpei......

 

Zhao Guojun.Do you always act as a go-between on stage, active between master and everyone, Is it right? Feel good?

Liu Guiming.Some people see me in the foreground scenery side, very active, dazzling, but I know my position. Like Jiang Ping, he they have a high influence is normal, for I have some not normal. Even so, many people I stayed if guest of honor, giving too much praise and applause, get the respect of others was of course pleased, but I still have a kind of worry, fear that they be more in name than in reality, contrary to expectations. But despite the worries, will not stop me to move on, as long as I am in this position, I will not turn back, to do more things for lawyers. But I know one's limitations, in any case in the scenery, in fact, is only a supporting role, to go back and you talk softly people may be your friend. A hero has a supporting role, supporting role is also good, as long as they can for the lawyer, both magazines, forum, forum, I would like to do, and it is good to do so.

Zhao Guojun.If you put aside all the restrictions, as you choose, what do you want to do it?

Liu Guiming.Every year these are very tired, one is the body tired, a mental tired, some ideas and concepts can not own implementation will be more tired. In addition, age and mental limitations, I really should consider some escape. For a lawyer to drum and call, if not like before the organization of various support services for them, I particularly wish to play a role in the Forum on such platforms. I admire Mr. Cai Yuanpei, hope to be able to first-class talent to organize as he did, the first-class thought converge. You see, many people do not know how much Mr. Cai construction in academic, theoretical, but knew that he would be so much talent, talent gathered together, the old north, "seat is Hao Ying", and even many different views of nature, give tit for tat people in Mr. Cai "academic freedom, absorb anything and everything" under the banner of together, atmosphere led to the temporary crown, and benefited the hundred years, what a remarkable achievement! From the forum's point of view, and I especially want to like Long Yongtu, not only the higher level of human tissue, and his speech and deportment also indicates appropriate, be just perfect, create opportunities for other people, if possible, I would like to do these things in the future.

Zhao Guojun.Always do a supporting role, you ready?

Liu Guiming.If the call, heroes gathered, I hope for their 'power, how one, how to shout, to build a bridge between the arm and the hero. I would like to be a bridge, as many people's views again, exchange ideas and create conditions. Although I did so many things for the lawyer, but still a supporting role, because the leading lawyer system is not me, not I macro management, the specific implementation is not I, who am I? I am witness, power, gas, me and them with joy, with anxiety, with hope, not very good? Whether I will come to a post, I think as long as the industry, as long as it is a occupation, as long as there is a piece of territory, be happy to let more people through my efforts, let more people every day full of hope, let more people every day is full of passion for life, what is there against it.? I think, supporting a long time, do more, come very naturally also is a sense of the protagonist. Besides life role, the world big stage! Do not need to worry about what role, therefore, the supporting cast is very happy!

Zhao Guojun.It is rare. No wonder you are always full of passion, to constantly challenge themselves and go beyond, to work, always keep a hot heart of the life, Is it right? Associated with you to make the world hero, I'm curious heart, in the middle of visit the lawyer, who gave you the deepest impression?

Liu Guiming.This is a problem. Where a lawyer the deepest impression? It can be said that every one is very deep, from different angles, I have great respect for them. Some thought, some is academic, some personality charm, some are working ability, everyone is my teacher! And they contact, friendship between gentlemen, clear, without any economic exchanges, tea cup, talk all night, enjoy the beauty of the mind, to enjoy the light of wisdom, they inspired me a lot, influence.

Zhao Guojun.If China lawyer saying, what are you trying to say?

Liu Guiming.I appreciate a sentence to you: at the furthest distance in the world is not heaven and earth, is not the mountain and water separated, is the heart of the distance. Looks like you can touch, in fact far fetched, the key lies in the mind, what kind of attitude is what results!

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