I am as Zhu Ling lawyer what was said, a lot of netizens care, hereby to reprint:

　　
Zhu Ling lawyer statement
days Beijing city law firm lawyers Zhang Jie, Li Haixia has accepted Zhu Lingling (Zhu Ling) legal representative Zhu Ming new lady commissioned, according to Zhu Lingling provide legal support and help of all, we work comprehensive has been orderly, hope that the majority of concern and support of Zhu Ling net friend and friend support and.
　　
　　
Author: Zhu Ling lawyer 2006-3-10 12:05
　　
Zhu Lingling (Zhu Ling) a letter by broad netizen lawyer
Zhu Lingling concern netizens: everyone! We are Beijing city day law firm Zhang Jie, Li Haixia law, we have accepted Zhu Lingling statutory agent Zhu Ming new lady commissioned, according to Zhu Lingling provide legal support and help. First of all, please allow us to represent Zhu Lingling and her family, to express our heartfelt thanks to you, thank you for a long time since as in the past to Zhu Lingling events concern and support, is the joint efforts of everyone to promote the further development of the matter, but also to Zhu Lingling family to see the hope of finding out the truth in a decade, in the deeply touched also our firm to use legal means to protect the rights of the parties to a sense of mission. according to China's current judicial system, only sufficient evidence can be found someone to commit a crime, so the undertaking lawyer Zhang Jie, Lee Hai Xia on the call, please informed friends provide relevant evidence and clues, because over time, some of the evidence may be destroyed, people familiar with the matter of fact will be forgotten, after more than a decade in how to use the law accredited programs will these important evidence preserved, is all the support and concern for Zhu Lingling users and friends a pressing matter of the moment things, is also our lawyers are currently the main. The evidence in this case mainly includes the following several aspects: poison and suspicious circumstances, the details and the rescue process of clues, the surrounding classmates about it, reflect and so on, please friends through this letter indicating the email address or correspondence address name and host the lawyer contact, we promise: we will use rigorous attitude towards every witness, every piece of evidence and clues in each one, both to ensure that the interests of the parties, the premise and protect the evidence provider security, submit the relevant judicial institutions such as the public security organ at the right time with the legal way, at the same time for insiders to provide important evidence, we will separate appointment. some net friend comment confused "lift the suspect" and "exclude suspect" two law. Lift the suspect is in excess of a legal term, compulsory measures by public security organs no conclusive evidence according to the lifting of criminal suspects, namely "suspected as innocent", but this does not mean that the suspect suspect excluded; exclude suspect refers to scout by the investigation and evidence that it may not be a crime, i.e. "do not guilty". Please the majority of people experience "suspected differences as innocent" and "really innocent". we as Zhu Lingling's agent, at the same time as a lawyer, everything will be in the lawyer's legal practice moral constraints and regulations acting within the scope of, careful, responsible, bold hypothesis, careful reasoning, strictly according to the relevant laws and facts: lawyers, the parties authorized. Ask broad concern Zhu Lingling, concerned friends understand and support, and actively provide effective evidence to help Zhu Lingling, reducing it phase does not vanish conscience, Zhu Lingling and the majority of users and the community a fair. after receiving the commission we have a formal letter to the public security organs, request as soon as possible, and Zhu Lingling case investigators were contacted, all in accordance with the legal procedures. Zhang Jie, lawyer Li Haixia once again expressed his thanks for the majority of users and friends support and concern Zhu Lingling, and we hope that a safeguard Zhu Lingling and her family's legitimate interests, safeguarding national judicial environment, thank you! salutation to contact the E mail: bjlitian@gmail.com address: Beijing, Dongcheng District Dongzhimen South Garden, maple Avenue 9 room D204 zip code: 100007 recipients: Zhang Jie lawyer days Beijing city law firm Zhang Jie, Li Haixia
　　
　　
Author: Zhu Ling lawyer 2006-3-10 15:04
　　
Zhu Ling lawyer website cannot access instructions
first, thank everybody for us lawyers work support, this morning found the site can not normally access, causes the ominous, we have formally to the Beijing City Public Security Bureau Internet supervision department report, it is under the investigation process.
　　
　　
Author: Zhu Ling lawyer 2006-3-11 16:29
　　
Zhu Ling cases of criminal suspects evidence
In order to solve crimes, public security organs should have sufficient evidence to prove who is the murderer, a piece of evidence that it might not be sufficient, but necessary. a suspect can get the Zhu Ling poisoning of thallium, although cannot prove that she is the murderer, but it is necessary for the proof of the evidence, if there is evidence that she has nothing to do with thallium, her suspicion is. if there is evidence to prove that she and thallium, and also can and Zhu Lingyou intimate contact, so she never declared: "there is no evidence that she and Zhu Lingling poisoning". Zhang Jie lawyers lawyer Li Haixia
　　
　　
Author: Zhu Ling lawyer 2006-3-14 17:55
　　
Zhu Ling cases aging problem
Zhu Ling of criminal case the longest prosecution for a period of 20 years, but in the people's Procuratorate, the public security organ, the state security organs for investigation or the people's court has accepted the case, the suspect escapes from investigation or trial, according to the "criminal law" the eighty-eighth regulation is no limitation on the period for prosecution, and if the victim in the filed charges within the period for prosecution, the people's court, the people's Procuratorate, the public security organ shall file the case and will not put on record, also not be the period for prosecution. "Criminal law" 88 at the same time, even after the prosecution, if the relevant organ considers it necessary to prosecution, shall be submitted to the Supreme People's procuratorate can be approved after the prosecution. Because the criminal crimes but victims of material loss, in criminal proceedings, the victim has the right to bring a criminal incidental civil action. responsibility for Tsinghua, Concord, Zhu Lingyou its civil right of action, according to the relevant provisions of the general principles of the civil law "", the period of limitation of action from knows or should know that his rights have been infringed upon, the maximum is 20 years, but there are special circumstances, the people's court may also be time to extend the duration of action, according to "the views of the people through" 169 explanations, the rights of people during the objective obstacles in legal effect cannot exercise his right of claim, which belongs to the "special" the views of the people through "provisions". conditions in some so according to the above law has in the situation, the criminal prosecution is no time limit, is likely to be lifelong. So, our lawyers are now collected evidence of course is not only the investigation of evidence, including mentions criminal supplementary civil action and civil action on the Tsinghua University, union of criminal evidence.
　　
　　
Author: Zhu Ling lawyer 2006-3-17 16:00
　　
On Zhang Jie, Li Haixia lawyer Zhu Ling do pharmacological analysis
Thank you again for the support of our lawyers work as in the past, with all the attention and care, we believe that Zhu Ling was poisoned case will come out one day. for some can reflect the objective facts of the crucial evidence, including of course Zhu hair made of different stages of the sample, we have given a properly. In formally accepted the Commission, we have to Zhu Ling and his family to provide legal support for many years, the related work to be able to prove the truth of the incident, ten years her parents and we never gave up, once the time is ripe, these will be the criminal suspect guilty evidence. welcome to provide strong clues and evidence, and we work together to maintain the lawyer Zhu Ling's rights, and jointly safeguard the China justice. Zhang Jie lawyer, lawyer Li Haixia
　　
　　
Author: Zhu Ling lawyer 2006-3-20 10:02
　　
Her mom taught us the truth
I is Zhu Lingjia regulars, their home is my biggest happiness atmosphere. Every time I go to see her and Zhu to make fun of the scene, the happy smile is from the heart of happiness. I also and several interviewed her reporter talked about, is the common feeling: how not sad? But why should be miserable? Don't people from misfortune while you miserable? Or can only be miserable? It makes me feel Zhu aunt extraordinary spiritual power. every time to their home, so I will have a new understanding, which Zhu aunt moved me the most is her man of noble, Zhu aunt noble lies in her mind the unfortunate experience of ordinary people after, be hardly worthy of belief, also can have a normal state of mind, in the huge pressure of life can be happy life (please note the happiness and difference), saw her and caught her daughter happy game, is to let people moved to tears. I'm not up to her level, I can't imagine being able to find happiness in her environment, only the choke. happiness is getting what you want, happiness is liking what you get happiness, so not everyone can have, but happiness is for. And in the most mediocre busy, always in the pursuit of things that have not been, so want more and more, nature also is not easy to achieve, often and often disappointing experience will have a strong sense of hopelessness. Most people are not up to the target at the same time, it also ignores their possessions in the busy, so I always think misfortune is not happy. So when the sad and hopeless, we find all possible vent object, put themselves into the angry youth, in suffering mind. Think of Zhu aunt unfortunate in the happy life, is really ashamed ah! Zhu last year too cerebral aunt in the hemorrhage, a skull without, now in the forehead also faintly visible bone nail marks, but the 60 year old she was recovered surprisingly well, she told me that she was the only thought was his daughter how to do To survive! The great mother's strength is how people moved, choke. Behind this power and how strong man of faith, the belief that we know the people! many times let Zhu Ling advertising opportunities, are Zhu aunt refused, Zhu aunt also unwilling to poor image makes one pity to get donations, her behavior, many people do not understand, more people do not understand, and even malicious. In a time of Zhu aunt happy life, feel her faith, her strength and her heart, her as a person, I can understand Zhu aunt now heart, she is to keep her own happiness, she didn't want to lose this only for the benefit of the happy, I feel happy for this Zhu the aunt how important, she want to live happy. at Zhu aunt in their own misfortune not to blame society, blaming others, have their own to find happiness, this is the interpretation of harmonious society are not true it Why we advocate the harmonious society, for such vivid examples to prohibit propaganda? The shocked at the same time in the heart, my heart also deeply condemns all give Zhu aunt unfortunate demon, feel more responsibility for their own occupation. sees Zhu aunt, have Speechless choke moved, in accordance with the requirements of our occupation, many things can not be in the open, but man, as it is immutable, most concerned about Zhu Ling's users are difficult to have the opportunity and Zhu Lingyi family close contact, it is difficult to better understanding of them, so I have the responsibility to let users know Zhu aunt a man of noble, this is their home to training intrinsic out two very good daughter! Therefore only by some of his own experience feedback all care Zhu Ling's net friend, everybody together to choke! the choke is moving, not helpless!!! Zhang Jie lawyer
　　
　　
Author: Zhu Ling lawyer 2006-3-24 13:08
　　
Zhu Ling lawyer a netizen asked
netizens in the open questions, although we did not answer the duty lawyer, but considering the broad netizen enthusiasm, to the popularization of legal knowledge is also very important, now one one answers are as follows: netizens asked: 1, the legal characteristic, the evidence is The relevance and necessity of 2, evidence of what is the difference? 3, you said in the post "if there is evidence to prove that she and thallium, and also can and Zhu Lingyou intimate contact, so she never said: 'there is no evidence that she and Zhu Lingling poisoning'". You think that is correct, if it is not correct that mistake is what? For the first question: has the characteristics evidence of criminal law, the provisions of a general comparison but, at present Chinese also no evidence law, the Supreme Court in recent years for the civil and administrative litigation evidence made a judicial interpretation of criminal law, is not, are we in law for the principle of evidence argument, the people there representative put forward evidence legislation, we also look forward to our legal system. The lawyer is not the legislative branch, also not the Justice Department, do not have the legislation and interpretation to the law, the lawyer's duty is to find problems, provide case, first in the legal field operations, to participate in practice. criminal law has the netizen lists, here again the netizen is not good to find Beijing judicial interpretations attached: [title] Beijing Municipal Higher People's Court on cases concerning issues of evidence for all kinds of regulations (Trial) Beijing high Law No. [2001]219 issued [] [] time 2001.09.17 implementation time 2001.10.01 [Department] the Beijing Higher People's Court (the Association) evidence 2 evidence shall be with objectivity, and the facts of the case, and in accordance with the law. The court should be based on evidence to prove the facts of the case according to the referee. The 3 evidence types are: (1) documentary evidence; (2); (3) the testimony of witnesses; (4) in Criminal Litigation Victim Statement and the confession of the defendant and the defense, civil litigation, the statements of the parties; (5) the appraisal conclusion; (6) in criminal investigation in civil procedure, inspection record, the records of inspection, administrative litigation in the inspection, on-site records; (7) audio-visual data (including audio and video data and electronic data exchange, e-mail, electronic data. For the second problem: relativity refers to the case to determine the facts about the necessity, means as proof of the need for certainty is necessary, sufficient to fully demonstrate the need to identify the. we prove a fact can have a variety of methods, that adopt different need evidence may be different, but the necessary evidence is whether you take what is not. But the evidence necessary to add some relevant evidence to determine the facts, evidence is sufficient, the relevant and not necessary evidence can be replaced. In addition to have connections, but to prove that there is no correlation between the facts, is not evidence. In order to help users understand , we give an explicit example of simple: for example, you find the object, she can't be cruel hearted to poison people, this is a necessary condition for (of course, if you are the kind of people to Like attracts like. words except), but she is beautiful or not, how, how the family education are related conditions, all the conditions and let you decide to marry is sufficient condition, and for the beautiful, education, family or how how these conditions can be replaced, not all. If you are a man, the object must be a woman, is what we call as everyone knows the situation (allergic except), not the condition, and some, such as her sister is beautiful or not, although there are related but not related conditions, unless you want to bubble. for third problems: our words must bear the responsibility, you think wrong things will not. If you think we're wrong, you may be said to reason, but you this question now inappropriate ways. This is a very strong suggestive questions, if the court, there is a great deal of inducement. Zhang Jie, Li Haixia
　　
　　
Author: Zhu Ling lawyer 2006-3-30 16:01
　　
Zhu Ling lawyer again answer Q
netizens on our post answers, he put forward his own as the standard answer like views, we think the answer "considerable" level, rather than the answer, rather than defense or justification, the netizen to put forward the following ten points: 1, your answer, only the association "the evidence shall be objective, and the facts of the case, and to make" and problems. 2, in my major, feature of evidence is defined as the validity, reliability, relevance, sufficiency. That is to say, when the legitimate, credible evidence, with proven related matters, and enough, can prove that the proven matters. Correlation of legality, reliability, here, the equivalent of Beijing high method [2001]219, "the evidence shall be objective, and the facts of the case are related, and to make." 3, please note, I did not mention the necessity. In addition, the necessity and sufficiency of the evidence, the necessary and sufficient condition is not exactly the same as the logic or mathematics. 4, your answer, still not rigorous, is also not clear enough, and even the existence of errors. Such as "some of the evidence necessary evidence and to determine the facts, evidence is sufficient, the relevant and not necessary evidence can be exchanged", "though contact but not related to the condition" etc.. Only the latter, I think, a contact, only related to the degree of different, such as direct or indirect correlation, important or minor related, but can't say "but not related". Moreover, "her sister beautiful no", there are several possibilities do not become related conditions, not only "unless you want to bubble small aunt" a (unless you want to bubble small aunt). 5, I think, the difference, the relevancy of evidence and the necessity of the key lies in: the necessary evidence is not the evidence. "Sketch" kitchen knife on, in fact is correct, it is reflected in the relationship: households had a kitchen knife (necessary evidence), but not necessarily the same homicide related (no evidence). 6, this is not the first in court, then even in court, you should also be the plaintiff's lawyer, and may not be the "inducement" object (unless you become the defendant). Inducement is refers to the "defendant" Yougong? Unless I have the wrong number. 7, your mistake, the analysis of the first, two as, is the necessary evidence as evidence. (1) "if there is evidence to prove that she and thallium relevant", the only evidence of her and thallium, besides can not prove that the things she and any other relevant, including of course can not prove that "she and Zhu Lingling poisoning". (2) "can and Zhu Lingyou intimate contact", it only proves that "she and Zhu Lingyou intimate contact", the same can not prove that "she and Zhu Lingling poisoning". (3) of the two together, if only these two, to prove the facts just: she and thallium and and Zhu Lingyou intimate contact, the suspicion degree increasing, but still can not prove that "she and Zhu Lingling poisoning". Because of the above evidence do not constitute "Zhu Lingling poisoning with the facts of the case" with "relevance" chain of evidence, in this case, the evidence does not have relevance. I presume, the police is not get "she poisoning" evidence and Zhu Lingling, i.e. form a "relationship" chain of evidence, then lifted her suspects. 8, based on the above analysis, in the absence of evidence that "she and Zhu Lingling poisoning", she can always says: "there is no evidence that she and Zhu Lingling poisoning". 9, from another perspective, "Zhu Lingling poisoning", there are several possibilities in theory: (1) such as Internet said, SW poisoning; (2) outside the SW poison; (3) his accidental; (4) their non accidental. When the three proved to be, she not only can immediately declared: "there is no evidence that she and Zhu Lingling poisoning", and can immediately declared: "the fact that she and Zhu Lingling poisoning does not". 10, at last, "if there is evidence to prove that she and thallium relevant", "and also can and Zhu Lingyou intimate contact", is actually two evidence, and not one piece of evidence, if at the same time with these two pieces of evidence and "Zhu Lingling poisoning", then alone with a evidence which, should also be concerned and "Zhu Lingling poisoning". Then according to your logic, not "there is evidence of thallium and related people", and "and Zhu Lingyou intimate contact person" (strictly speaking not close contact can also be), "never said: no evidence of its and Zhu Lingling poisoning"? Author: people ill case can be broken the netizen's reply, we think it is very easy to cause the other users of the concept, logic confusion, in order to clarify the concept and logic relation, have special instructions. In the first part netizen reply, we illustrate:
　　
　　
Author: Zhu Ling lawyer 2006-3-31 17:16 reply to this statement
　　
2 Zhu Ling lawyer again answer Q
The "evidence" discussed here is the concept can not in, please read: "thallium irrefutable evidence shall be severely punished according to law" and "with thallium poisoning is the glass material evidence is an important evidence," the two words "evidence" concept. One is a collection of evidence or the evidence, the other is a single evidence or the elements of the collection. Discuss the issue in all can not change a concept secretly. everyone read the first sentence of article forty-second of criminal law "in all cases to prove the case facts are true." And the last sentence of article "the above evidence must be verified before it can be taken as a basis." Experience the evidence here is what meaning, there is sufficient the netizen said? Now the case has not been finalized, obviously here said the evidence is all facts that prove the true circumstances of the case, not to be confused with "evidence" and "verdict evidence" two concepts. we believe that logical reasoning is one of the most basic life outlook and the scientific attitude is, in the judicial like, a confusion of logic judgment is not considered. So we think that logic is the concept of unity, both in mathematics and in the judicial field, just different, but the rules and concepts of logic should be consistent. If you said the court, public security case illogical, or have their own special logic, we can only choke. here to illustrate the necessary and a full relationship, it fully, it must contain the necessary, namely: if necessity does not exist, there is no sufficient, necessary for a full man. Therefore, in the definition of the concept of evidence, mentioned the adequacy, didn't list the necessity. Sufficient evidence to cover the necessary evidence, would be irrelevant to the case is not evidence. The second part netizen reply, we are as follows: the correlation between the two friends for my examples cited in bubble small aunt to find objects are very grateful to the analysis, the problem of mining the and opinions are very unique, but I hope that the friends in the surface analysis "to take the same dedication" there is evidence, standard, we be filled with righteous indignation, because Zhu Ling suffered a double standard!!! One of the basic our principle is to have uniform standards do different, for different people and standard, this way I won't play a double game, if we can split personality, will you The third part netizen reply, we are as follows: first please net friends once again experience the "she Zhu Ling poisoning" and "evidence that she and her poisoning" two words mean, the two words of the subject is different, one is "the relevant evidence and --" "she is, a". Chinese and Latin Germanic languages are very different, there is no tenses, nominative and accusative in Chinese, so are particularly vulnerable to interpret out of context and concept, from ancient to modern times China there are players in this regard, culminating in the cultural revolution especially those activities, but in the case of the network is also more and more people come to confuse the public on this manipulation, users should pay attention to identification, do you want to work Chinese characters in writing. The formulation has broad and narrow for pigeon respectively, generalized understanding of how users have been described, not repeat them here. But we also deeply felt some people hope to obtain some information from the lawyers there through the network, for good friends, we will try to let them know that some may know, for a malicious person, we choke. In fact verification process, we believe that the logical reasoning and logic analysis is very important, according to the procedure law and the relevant judicial interpretations: unless the parties have sufficient evidence to the contrary, overthrow, the court can identify another according to the known facts can infer. The netizen apparently does not recognize the logical reasoning in the case of the "Zhu Ling, and close contact with poison conditions", "to obtain a desired poison" and other evidence only as an isolated event, separate the connection, refused to use logical reasoning together. as another popular straightforward examples, such as you sketch, painting portraits and photographs as impossible, at least not with color, but if you are not a beginner, people should know who is you draw it, they will not because it is black and white sketch, say you not painted, nor will your stroke one out and portraits of Bibi. Here please net friend in front of the users of our church "method of small aunt how beautiful" and find the object to analyze, Is it right? Somebody will be the first big? finally here to talk about the old lawyer predisposed to raise questions : we are parties, open to the identity of the lawyer safeguard the interests of the parties, of course we are to stand in the position to speak, but we have our own basic principles, we do not change the concept, we believe in Science and logic, we don't have a double standard, we should have independent personality and life. If the request of the parties beyond this range, we reject agent, will not hide in the dark injure insidiously. lawyers work to earn money, but a lot of the time, the spirit of things than money personality! Now, Zhu Ling family to find our agent, we are free to aid, all the work is compulsory, but we also donations; if some people find our agent, more money we wouldn't do things offensive to God and reason. this over and over again and we discuss the netizen, a back two back, we also do not know what good praise you, said a sentence: as the name, the name! Zhang Jie lawyers lawyer Li Haixia
　　
　　
Author: Zhu Ling lawyer 2006-3-31 17:16
　　
Zhang Jie, Li Haixia lawyers Zhu Ling's unfair treatment and a netizen asked
netizen times and our lawyers on legal issues, logic problems, our lawyers have to return the netizen doubt the main reason, here is the hope that the majority of netizens can recognize the legal problems, in essence, for individual users and other basic about logic, sufficient conditions, necessary condition, subject, object, object, subjective elements and objective elements, position, angle, standards vague, we don't lecture like a long and minute statement, interested users can consult relevant. We want to talk Zhu injustice to the double standard treatment, so here is to give users specify the related concept: netizens questioned attorney mentioned for deliberately poisoned and Homicide by quackery standard is the same, we think it is the same as the standard, is to apply "criminal law", "criminal law" as the standard to apply, but "criminal law" after the result is different, here the confusion standard standard and implementation of the results; the users also asked us attorney for the parties and the defendant (client may be the defendant, here the meaning should be the criminal suspect, SiC) standard is the same, so we have to tell you is: not all things are relative, different kinds of thing cannot be compared! We are the legal provisions on the agent and lawyer practicing standards in civil law provisions for the application, if the defendant (the suspect) is the application of the criminal law, criminal law and civil law and how to compare and talk to different standards? If it is a double standard, in this example should refer to: there is a "criminal law" for anyone, there is another kind of "criminal law for the people". our concept has broad and narrow on respectively, your own understanding is the broad or narrow is not important, but if you want to and we investigate the problem, please use our understanding about the concept of time, such as playing zhongruan, your own solo, you have to understand what track can be, but the ensemble, it must remain with the chief. We are here to discuss issues, not in the debate contest, that show debating skills donkey lip to the mouth of the debate is not, your level and debating skills everyone recognized, if write Chinese characters have reached Zheng Banqiao's six and a half the level of the book, I ah! we talk about these logical problems, in order to let broad netizen law has a certain basis, to understand the essence of law case under unfair treatment, for us to further explore Zhu Ling suffered foundation, let all Zhu Ling justice users have become rational. We say Zhu Ling was a double standard, we must review the history, review the judicial environment, as in the case officer Li Shusen said -- to respect history! Zhu Ling in the case, there can be the object of criminal conditions, but also can obtain the thallium in the victim's around, should soon be able to identify, and reconnaissance agency for the suspect to take measures in a report (95 years before and after May) 23 months (1997 April), as was the case for speed, from the general the direct clues to the death penalty executed time is about nine months. The current criminal procedure China law was implemented in January 1, 1997, after the 19 month is. In the new criminal law determines the presumption of innocence, presumable innocence and so on our present judicial principle concept, with no prior criminal suspects, is said to be criminals or suspects (the murderer is compared with the popular view), principles of justice at that time is: severely and fast, tough on crime, the supreme court to review right of death penalty in the high court of justice; judicial principles now is: less kill kill carefully, the protection of human rights, the Supreme Court to review right of death penalty to reclaim. Consider to have the Spring Festival, NPC and CPPCC and necessary link, Chinese new criminal procedural law in effect until the implementation to complete, it is 97 years in April, and security measures for the criminal suspect time very well, is it just a coincidence? Here we must ask: direct evidence is obtained from the suspect should be between the measures for the criminal suspect so long to have what problem? In order to presumption of innocence to allow the suspect to enjoy the new criminal procedure law use cases for so long, leading to loss of a lot of evidence can not solve, should take what kind of responsibility? we think Tsinghua shall timely provide who can contact thallium evidence, (if Tsinghua lie, is to assume responsibility for perjury, it is easy to verify it is not necessary, if the Qinghua Group of teachers and students do not know the presence of thallium, just in case the key evidence is this: task group within a classmate evidence is the only contact with thallium So the investigation organ after obtaining the Tsinghua evidence, long time not to take proper measures for criminal suspects, is suspected of malpractice; if this is due to the effects of non normal factors, has the favoritism suspicion. At the same time for criminal suspects, in case of abnormal enjoy the presumable innocence, because the new law has taken effect, we can not be said to be illegal, but for our victim Zhu Ling, at least is not fair, at the same time for the time all convicted according to the presumption of guilty person is not fair. This double standard is what we call. If the criminal suspect is due to the time the police solved the case, from the presumption of guilt to the presumption of innocence which have not been convicted of words, then the body with thallium suspects fame are can be said to be wronged, injustice, wronged? According to this year NPC and CPPCC supreme court reports, 2162 people nationwide in 2005 not guilty, guilty of more than 84 people, two proportion of about 1/400.
　　
　　
Author: Zhu Ling lawyer 2006-4-5 15:21 reply to this statement
　　
2 Zhang Jie, Li Haixia lawyers Zhu Ling's unfair treatment and a netizen asked
We'll have a look evidence of the case, netizens have pointed out the question to the legitimacy of evidence, then breaking into lab to get highly toxic and dangerous goods, without permission illegal video, so obtained evidence should be handled According to the spirit of Justice: evidence obtained must be lawful, only through legal channels to obtain evidence can be taken as a basis. Without the consent of the other party to record their conversations, is illegal behavior, obtained by the means of recording data, can not be used as evidence (the March 6, 1995 Supreme Court Reply). Audio-visual material evidence is limited, because the audio-visual materials can be cut, can also trick, just as people can't believe the movie screen, we can imagine a scenario: video shooting heroine is led by don't appear in the lens of thallium and thallium students and student cadres in the teaching building, laboratory and open the cupboard to get poison, then whether the school people around you? But even if someone tube, the video can be cut out, and the video can be proved that the ingredients that thallium? At the same time, there is another important question is if there is no news, in the process of secret investigation in the criminal suspect is how to know the evidence? If the evidence is taken in by some investigators under, then what is it? So the evidence if one day of testimony in court, doubt is like some face hempseed as obvious. According to our country's judicial provisions: audio-visual materials should be combined with other evidence of the case, ascertaining the facts of the case according to the. So here's a Tsinghua University laboratory management confusion audio-visual material evidence should be separate admission is problematic. in the absence of the audio-visual material evidence, we'll have a look "and she is the only access to the TL" this evidence is a what kind of evidence Due to the uniqueness of the evidence should be a sufficient evidence of a crime, conviction. At the same time, we also know that the Tsinghua University offers laboratory management rigorous evidence, the evidence and the audio-visual material evidence is contradictory, the adoption of these two pieces of evidence, and do not say the evidence itself in doubt, we know: the audiovisual data is provided by the close relatives has a direct interest relationship with the suspect production and, in accordance with the rules of evidence, proof of this evidence is far lower than that of no interest mechanism and criminal suspects -- the evidence provided by the Tsinghua University. for audio-visual material evidence collection, we are holding objection to the admissibility of evidence, the unusual and non normal standards is a great not for my party Zhu ling. We think we should adopt not interested at the Tsinghua University provides evidence, admissibility of evidence and should not be the existence of illegal proof low audio-visual data, if it is established that there is evidence that "the suspect is the only condition of crime" and "cover up the crime motive" and other auxiliary evidence of evidence, also cannot say there is sufficient evidence to prove the criminal suspect in the crime behavior, then in our presumption of innocence and the weight of evidence of oral confession light today, what kind of possibilities, to the criminal suspect convicted without the suspect's statements or more witnesses the case? From the above analysis known, our data are from the network open, see here a lot of friends should know: sometimes unconsciously deluded is very easy. The key technique is bewitched by continuous concept, make people wrong thinking. For example: we discuss in this case in the first people to avoid the evidence is key to the dangerous road detection must walk in the 10 years after the re mining evidence insufficient evidence, make people the impression, then from the presumable innocence to the innocent to innocence, say by himself with the angel. But if we get out of someone to give you deliberately set thinking formulary ask: suspected crime is innocent? I don't think more about you that now. So we back to have a look at the public security police officer said, "history" and "public security when there is a certain conclusion", which suggested to us what? 10 years, Zhu Ling's relatives and friends and many a case for the eyes of people, not legal professionals, injustice in this case Zhu Ling treatment with deep hatred and resentment, though aware but not in legal language is the correct expression, or the heart that who murderer is, but couldn't find the legal support and basis for the therefore, they suffered a lot of unnecessary attack, criticism, slander and grievance, for these people want to talk about not what we say it now; for the understanding of the case some legal professionals, they should understand the story, but the three mouth shut, why we can understand them, for those who want to dare not say we now say. We accept the entrusted to handle the case, had the justice of the end to fling caution to the winds, now say the truth and the legal case analysis, is to have the martyrs of the ideological preparation, interest is not within the scope of our consideration. here should also explain is: China judicial system and many different, we fight not users understand the suspect, in the face of suspects for detecting and combating crime is the public security and judicial organs of things, we are to public security and judicial authorities claim the rights of victims, if a criminal suspect is wrongs also to the public security and judicial organs are advocated, so we are the object of judicial authority and not a crime! For those of us with legal service for the occupation, against judicial authority of the risk and cost of how much we know, this is the way it has ruined money don't we explain more! here we let users know what to reason, to let users not deluded, direct though not the purpose, but also a righteous things should be done, and the case of goals without! For our common goal, we should hold responsible for the right time, we should not only be able to endure loneliness, can withstand criticism. Now let us clarify some legal concept, might make some attempt to cover up the truth confuse the public people uncomfortable, in addition to the murderer, here also send those uncomfortable in a word: do not be small and in bad, not good for small! In this paper, based on the fact (for online public fact, does not mean that the law facts only, such as the netizen grasp of the situation and the fact not symbol, contact us by mail and please, thank you lawyer Zhang Jie Li Haixia
　　
　　
Author: Zhu Ling lawyer 2006-4-5 15:21