A police officer with the National Lawyers dialogue

   As materialists, I always do not believe that the so-called "God", "heaven" or something like that, Li Zhuang case to give people a shock, seem to indicate that a "heaven" contour. Just imagine, a provincial city party secretary, theory dominated possess all the resources within the jurisdiction of the right, almost inexhaustible human financial and intellectual turned to war, actually do not a lawyer, is why? This event (is not a case) to what enlightenment? Managers and all what we can see from this event? For the future of our country the event means what? Since Li Zhuang case withdrawing, I have been thinking about these problems, some conclusions we will consider posting opinions on this, seek advice to the sage.
      A, as a system is most likely to clash with lawyers group member, I generally talk about our community attitudes to Li Zhuang case is a kind of change, first of all, is almost the same This cheers the people greatly., truth be told, criminal defense lawyers in the process of practice, if will hurt people, we are most likely to be hurt. Motionless accused us of torture to extract confessions, in fact, I unit severely for this problem less supervision in any form, the so-called detection indicators specific for handling people actually no pressure, the pressure is that leadership, and prohibited torture to extract confessions requirements and penalty is far more important than the case number is not up to the standard, two evils the lesser, whether the leadership or the people are not stupid, torture to extract confessions can not say no, but the actual situation is our unit to a few years will hear a torture to extract confessions thing, but everyone's attitude that do not often foolish. In a word, we doesn't love torture to extract confessions, such practices in our group was regarded as stupid as being laughed at. But we often lawyers to this complaint, the lawyer has the right to appeal, the problem is our department is in the internal management of Ning Wang is not vertical groups, called "strict management", is the actual gross management. Every complaint, we have many people hurt and harm, the oppressed have no ability to lead the attack, will point to the complainant, pointing to this group. So long, between the contradictions are becoming more and more deep, the lawyer for us is not kind, we also can the whole ugly lawyer will never give good-looking, finally rose to fight for their own protection system, introduced some restrictions on lawyers, marking and so on rights, lawyers in the illegal provision and scolding, presumably don't think about why, Is it right? Yourself out? Therefore, This cheers the people greatly. not because of ignorance of the law, but a kind of emotional attitude decision. After the trial ended, we generally understand the facts of the case, especially after the "blink" up in the air, you start to silence and ignore the case, occasionally there are network people don't know is ironic or cheer evaluation to "this is the people's democratic dictatorship victory", but soon be keen administrator killed, perhaps don't want to discuss this case. Li Zhuang case after the second season, discussion began, due to various factors, this discussion is not open and obscure, standard evaluation is: "is not science, and not let people, is superfluous." Until the withdrawal, we once again quiet, this is the thinking of silence, we don't want any trouble, but we thought and reflection. Our group to today, the vast majority of people trained, like most law education, not a book, not a teacher of our strict enforcement of the law is not education, in the legal construction, in fact, not polite to say we are the main force, rather than other, more than the enemy.

    Our work is a matter of conscience, that is to say different efforts and perfunctory, but seems to be no flaw. Unless we are willing to do, or can not find the witness, confused thinking, unclear facts completely normal. Long been media invective and complaints that we be indignant, also make us more cool, we pay more attention to protect themselves, we pay more attention to in form, let a person cannot find an excuse. Li Zhuang case if there is mass basis in our internal words, based on this resentment, in this case, awareness of the leadership intention and handling of highly unified, this unity is the inherent power of the cases, the development of. Anyway, for the people, you dare to sign the leadership, I will catch a person, but I wanted to catch.

   Based on this group confrontation, institutional rivalry, tragedy finally happened, however, that tragedy is too big, too deep, beyond the control of all the people, to all of us of the tragedy, all of us are facing the challenge of the ideal of tragedy, the disillusionment will lead us and our country completely lost, we will return to the mob politics of the times, struggling in a crazy whirlpool.

   Therefore,As the legal person of the rule of law, when is our ability to prevent the US should stop, meaningless, non rational confrontation should end, lawyers and the case handling department time to reconciliation. In particular, the lawyer in the parties need to complaints handling when torture to extract confessions, are my own judgment about what Is it right? True? If you can persuade me or not? Whether in the internal investigation to be fair? As the man, and a lawyer, put forward different views actually is equivalent to a aides and advisers, can make the investigation and handling of the case of more objective and fair, have what not good? Respect the law and the right to practice, is to respect the law, have what not understand? We have the same education, using the same materials, learn the same law, many can communicate between us, but the lack of communication in good faith, lack of good people attitude. Therefore, to end the confrontation of the time, this fight if it continues, to say in the induction of a madman, Li Zhuang case and renew the new, and will be more strict, more cruel. You can say a Li Zhuang fall, thousands of Li Zhuang stand up, say, in our 1600000 team, they are cowards, so much to kill and rob the criminals, is it their own to the court registration? Indulgence criminals, may not be the law of the gospel, penalty according to the crime, it is our pursuit. Within the framework of the law, we can be very broad consensus. Therefore, to end the confrontation, to seek the law within the scope of the cooperation, should be the lawyer and the case handling department consensus.

   Two, any of a group is a ring of social ecology, are indispensable, the group interest expands too much or too much weakened, will cause the whole social rebound. Some are good at using the mass psychology of leadership may think, now the society, the enemy officer, start on the two class, can harvest a lot of prestige value, the lawyer is not wealthy, but belong to the upper class, although it is not official, but the status in society, the enemy officer psychological seem to get on, is a good game. But the lawyer this group generally speaking, belong to a weak group, in Chinese number is little, weak forces, survival condition is very bad, anti pressure ability than other groups.

   Li Zhuang case, the first season of trial results, in fact, is weighing heavily on the lawyer's practice space, when the Justice Department is lack of sensitivity, not argue, no soft protest, but with great enthusiasm propaganda Li Zhuang case to the lawyer's warning, the various restrictions on lawyers, the police introduced a variety of restrictions of lawyer s right of meeting, marking the right movement (these are obvious violations) to pay no heed, but only educate their children to behave, be careful not to be bad children play, is really a fool to the third degree of behavior, lost inside, external weakness, after the judicial department useless, grandmother is not pain, uncle don't love seems inevitable. Notice the judicial management department and the lawyer is a lawyer representing a symbiotic relationship, your voice is the requirements of the law, but also to their status. Strange, a local princes you can let the Justice Department silent, obedient and don't so far sighted?

   However, because of the weak group of lawyers, enabling the Li Zhuang case victory.
   Look forward one step, Li Zhuang case second season if Li Zhuang sentenced again, the Ministry of justice will once again took the opportunity to carry out rectification of a lawyer team, on the cross, two is to strengthen the team of lawyers to the ability to control, interlocking, public security organs to maltreat an injured person, shall again introduced to limit the lawyer's practice, complete the lawyer in the justice the field of edge, the lawyer rapid loss of prestige among the masses, will the overall living environment deteriorated to the point of this group difficult to continue, in addition to the public law, the group that will not disappear in smoke it, rapidly shrinking is inevitable. However, the lawyer group is a part of social ecology, the social ecology of self recovery function on the non official, lawyer non rich, but also, on the whole is a group of community service and service very good, in fact, is a middle class society, when the population's survival crisis, the whole society will burst out to save the power of the group, Chongqing is facing enormous resistance, is also the social ecological resilience, Chongqing is in and the whole social confrontation, is "fate" move, defeat in Chongqing, should lose regrets, who can fight and the society as a whole? Who can really take over?

   In fact, because the objective law of social ecology, Chongqing not only fight but lawyers, even Chongqing and Chinese most vulnerable -- beggar group bucket, are the bucket but, if, Chongqing enacted regulations, banned begging, and offenders heavily, even shot, sent a large number of personnel or the threat or advice, whether soft measures or the hard way, was doomed to failure, our society is not allowed to pay so much moral costs to keep the city clean and tidy, the root of this is doomed to failure. Therefore, Li Zhuang case, managers should summarize, any group, have the right to live, in fact, as long as the social not natural selection in this group, no matter by what way, you won't be able to completely suppress this group vitality. Social management is to maintain the social ecology, is the coordinator of the group and class, and do not make excessive damage any group interests, but don't make any interest group of over expansion, this is the social management should do a good job.

   Three, Li Zhuang case reflects a political law: a country can not enemy, whether in the hand (especially in ideology), according to which a stock. Not thick with a speech, maybe I don't think so, but actually the lawyers as itself renovation, with his resources, deal with Chongqing lawyers to deal with no problem, Li Zhuang has no problem, however, with the China lawyers, appeared to be inadequate. But he is not depressed, not because the law is too cunning, do not believe another opponent to try, the students? Teacher? Doctor? A farmer? Worker? All the same! But as the future leaders of the country he should be happy, this is the unification of thousands of years Chinese force, is the embodiment of people's cohesion, in the face of difficulties, a group can national unity, regardless of what the north and South together, is the greatness of our nation not shortcomings, is the ruler of the blessing and not hidden danger, is our heritage ancestors left, if one day not thick need to this country and to arouse all the people of the country's power, he should be for this nation has such great cohesion and comforting.

   Finally, I would like to take this to talk about our anti hero Wang Lijun director, treat a person must be comprehensive and objective and historical view, in any case, he has no negative anti hero of this title, he has what mistakes both in the Li Zhuang case, he is a real hero. The reason I make evaluation without reservation, and my personal experience, I work in the town, a total of three crime crackdown action, the two time I served as project team leader, one deputy leader, this experience makes me know, crime crackdown and need to work it requires courage level, black in the final analysis, is a group of a motley crew of society, I do not waver as long as the leaders determined to support, the underworld in my eyes it is chicken tile dogs. Whatever your organization and then a huge, many younger brother again, I do not put in the eye, to tell the truth, many people just in the crime when there is, in the face of the time, is an inevitable demise. In the crime crackdown in the work, when my wife was threatening, nobody knows my anger, no one understood my determination to be irreconcilable opposed to. These are just in my heart that I work hard, I think I am lonely. In the know director Wang Lijun in the Northeast crime crackdown, have faced the assassination of the underworld, faced when the family is threatened, I think, at least he'll understand crime crackdown on a police officer, is what kind of test, through the test of the people, is a what kind of person, his loyalty and brave, can achieve a what kind of state. Now we are generally understand the Li Zhuang case third season will be what kind of story, I have to say that, rational, do fine, do not hurt should not hurt people, do things too much, the result will not be to want that kind of. Facts have proved that, the truth even if it's just too small, will become a fallacy. In addition, the greater the power, the more responsibility, right, the public, the public of the heart to the exercise of power, will carry all before one, if a little selfish ideas and personal considerations, will cause harm to the. Each aspiring to leave your name on the road China rule of man, remember this point.

   The dialogue should be There is an exchange of calls., because you can understand, I can only talk about my own views, all lawyers have different views, I can't answer, just comfortable will of the people, I believe you have a heart of Chinese rule of big industry, also ask you to believe, I also like.

   Attached to the lawyer Yang Jinzhu space statement:

   Lawyer Yang, I am not in Chongqing, Chongqing police busy, to black, to work hard to sing red, to jump off the loyalty dance, hereby explain, lest the fallacy. I may not have you so strong indignation against Li Zhuangan, the reason above paste, please understanding, but for Chinese prospect of rule of law, for the people will not go crazy, and you are a position.
A China police I was watching, I admire a man, no matter what kind of occupation, so in your blog to seek consensus. If the first, two quarter is a lawyer in the crowd of onlookers, then the police will be a lot of rational communication, hope, I just sent the police's voice, not to admit mistakes, don't get me wrong.
   A major issue, will have tremendous courage and wisdom, the most favorable auspices, director Wang Lijun doesn't need me a provincial police defense for him, his eloquence and learning, not at all, after you when there is a chance. I want to watch is the specific handling, our brother, will not be distinguished when the soft persimmon knead, this is our bottom line, we will learn from you, never abandon a companion. Li Zhuang case second season, we learn the crowd, saying that bad easy to learn hard ah, this is not? Our study also very quickly.